2007 Kentuck Derby Futures

[deltasports]

CANT WAIT FOR THE FUTURES TO BE POSTED SO I CAN BET !!!!

hh) NOBIZ LIKE SHOBIZ hh) ::; by ALBERT THE GREAT out of NIGHTSTORM by STORM CAT (16.1)

WHO WILL BE THE FAVORITE IN THE FUTURES??????

[Nijinsky]

John Avello at Wynn's resort in LV has posted KY Derby futures for months now. Other books in Vegas also have em I'm sure. I will try to track down some prices for you, if you like. Within a couple of days I should have em.

[danstep43]

hey Delta, I thought NOBIZ was our secret!! LOL

[notrapmit]

Don't plan on placing a large futures bet at the Wynn . Sports Town was listed at 225-1 but they would only allow $100.00 at those odds then it dropped to 100-1 at which they would only accept $1000.00 in bets , then odds dropped to 50-1. What they won't tell you untill you get there. So if a horse drops drasticlly in odds it's probably because someone bet a hundred bucks.

[Jerfi]

Ah, but you CAN bet large bucks, here at TW! :)

We will take any action, at our posted odds!

Our slate will fill up over the next 3 or 4 weeks...if you would like to SUGGEST a horse for our list, please feel free to do so!

[FastG45]

Record 450 3-year-olds nominated to this year's Triple Crown

[reman12000]

Is there any word yet if and when otb's will be taking Derby future wagering? I mean the offical one from like the kentuckyDerby.com website.
thanks

[deltasports]

I Think The Kentucky Derby Futures Will Be Up By Churchill Downs On Friday Feb 9th

[Steve]

Any one have a good strategy? A particular betting method? Please share with our members.

KDFW POOL 1 WAGERING INTERESTS:
#, Wagering Interest, ML odds
1. Adore the Gold, 20-1
2. Any Given Saturday, 20-1
3. Belgravia, 20-1
4. Buffalo Man, 30-1
5. Circular Quay, 15-1
6. Day Pass, 15-1
7. Dreaming of Anna (f), 15-1
8. Drums of Thunder, 30-1
9. E Z Warrior, 15-1
10. Exhale, 20-1
11. Forefathers, 30-1
12. Great Hunter, 30-1
13. Hard Spun, 20-1
14. Lawrence the Roman, 30-1
15. Liquidity, 20-1
16. Nobiz Like Shobiz, 8-1
17. Notional, 15-1
18. Out of Gwedda, 30-1
19. Ravel, 15-1
20. Scat Daddy, 30-1
21. Stormello, 20-1
22. Street Sense, 12-1
23. Zanjero, 30-1
24. All Other 3-year-olds, 7-2
(f) = filly

Steve

[Nijinsky]

Don't plan on placing a large futures bet at the Wynn . Sports Town was listed at 225-1 but they would only allow $100.00 at those odds then it dropped to 100-1 at which they would only accept $1000.00 in bets , then odds dropped to 50-1. What they won't tell you untill you get there. So if a horse drops drasticlly in odds it's probably because someone bet a hundred bucks.

You're saying they initially took a bet to win 22,500, and then laid a bet to win 100k? That doesn't make much sense.
I've run Race/Sports books for many years, and future books have to have liability guidelines for the house.
If you are a book manager, try going upstairs to directors after the race
and telling them you lost a million or two on your KY Derby future book!
Be looking for a new job - fast!
How far a book will extend a bet to you depends on a number of things -
and how good a customer you are in the casino has much to do with it.
If you are a high-roller with a large credit-line, the sky is the limit....
the average guy off the street is lucky to get a bet to win 20k.
That's the name of the game...it's called good business for the casino. $)

[danstep43]

Hi Steve, in betting the futures, I always play my most desirable in the first and maybe 2nd leg, as you know each leg the prices will drop and some considerably, in the 3rd leg, I would play a few at good prices who have given the appearance they may run well in the derby.

the best examples I have for my plays are Fu. Pegasus, had him in the first leg of futures and I believe he was the fave. in the 3rd leg and was the fave in the derby, I got him at 13-1

Funny Cide was a good one also as the closer it got to the derby, the more desirable he was.

One horse that I didn't bet in the futures but followed through the Holy Bull and Fla. Derby and had him WPS and top and bottom with Monarchos and Point Given was Invisible Ink who ran 2nd at 55-1, and also made a great TRI with Congaree, that was my best score ever. Ink ran fairly well in both FL races and I gave him a chance to improve in the KY. Derby....

so, if you like a horse, bet him early cuz if he or she is the goods, you will lose the value as it gets closer to MAY 6th

[scottsdad]

dan,i will be betting the derby on may 5th---on may 6th as you say------i will tell you who to bet---lol

[tote]

You can get all the value plays you can possibly handle on May 6th.

[danstep43]

trying to be somewhat eloquent and leave it to my "two-stooge" partners to bash me over a day......24 hours.......how 'bout the info., how 'bout bashing that my camel-jockey brethren

[scottsdad]

dan,would you like to go in on a lottery ticket with tote and i?
we are playing tonights lottery---TOMORROW.

[tote]

dan,would you like to go in on a lottery ticket with tote and i?
we are playing tonights lottery---TOMORROW.
Scottsdad, Dan is right. It's only 24 hours. What could possibly change in 24 hours? I say, let's leave him alone... or not.

[tote]

I'm going to Santa Anita today. I think I'll play Lava Man and take the short odds in the Sunshine Millions Turf race.

[danstep43]

Mr. TOTE, alot can change in 24 hours, you are absolutely correct.....like maybe lose your remaining 1,375 in VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV,
and Mr. Dad, your 70+ K would look awfully good added to my 47+!!!!!!

Could put a nice down payment on a V-Castle

[scottsdad]

tote,i will bet you that sweetnorthernsaint wont win.

[tote]

I can just see you two vpeople living happily ever after... or is that, before?

[nashua]

My future bets in Pool 1 are: 40 win Day Pass @ 38-1
20 win Drums of Thunder 41-1
10 win Forefathers 44-1
10 win Liquidity 33-1

[notrapmit]

A friend was sent to buy 25 $100.00 tickets at 225-1 they would only sell one , then they dropped odds to 100-1 . Not exactly sure how many they would sell at those odds , thought he said 10 , but didn't want those odds. Didn't realize when they posted odds that they would limit what you could wager at those odds.

[Nijinsky]

A friend was sent to buy 25 $100.00 tickets at 225-1 they would only sell one , then they dropped odds to 100-1 . Not exactly sure how many they would sell at those odds , thought he said 10 , but didn't want those odds. Didn't realize when they posted odds that they would limit what you could wager at those odds.

Notrap,
If, by some miracle, you hit all those tickets, you would suddenly own a significant chunk of the casino that posted those odds.
They base their limits on how much they are likely to handle on the event.
That's how bookmaking works.......

[deltasports]

POOL 2 IS NOW OPEN FOR THE DERBY & WILL CLOSE SUNDAY AT 6PM EASTERN..THE NEW PRICES LOOK VERY GOOD FOR EVERYONE...NOBIZ LIKE SHOBIZ IS 15-1...Whether HE WILL BE THAT PRICE WHEN THE POOL CLOSES ON SUNDAY,WE SHALL SEE WHAT WE WILL SEE WHEN THAT COMES ABOUT..
IN THE MEAN TIME,I HAVE BARCLAY'S CELL NUMBER & I AM THINKING ABOUT CALLING HIM TO OFFER 2 SUGGESTIONS.

#1 PUT CLOSED BLINKERS ON HIM.

#2 GET A NEW JOCK...GARRET GOMEZ OR EDGAR OR SOMEONE ELSE..

WHAT DO ALL YOU NICE FOLKS THINK????tro( tro( tro(

[Mister Stigg]

From 12/02/06
Re: Who Was The Most Impressive???

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mister Stigg
Keeping up with Showing Up during a 5f workout is one thing. Going by him at a mile and 1/4 in a race on turf is another.

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GOOD MORNING MR STIGG

I HAVE TAGG'S PHONE #..CALL HIM & TELL HIM> YOUR ABOVE STATEMENT..

BETTER STILL>>>APPLY FOR HIS JOB AS HEAD TRAINER BECAUSE YOU KNOW MORE THAN HE DOES

YOURS TRULY

Deltasports
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Sounds to me like YOU know more than Tagg does. I think Tagg would be delighted to hear your suggestion. While you have him on the phone, tell him you want to apply for his job, and don't forget to mention my above statement, and add to it that I said "at 1 1/4 miles on turf, Showing Up will knock Nobiz's dick in the turf!" ::; And Tagg has already mentioned adding blinkers in his post race comments.

[Jerfi]

Well, I'm still putting my real world bets on ALL OTHER 3 YR OLDS ....as long as it stays at 4/1 or higher .....

[Jerfi]

It seems to me that whoever wins the KY this year is going to be a $15 horse, or more... simply because the ones we have seen, thus far, keep beating up on each other.

With every passing trial, the picture becomes more murky! :)

[mudcat1]

I think the post draw for some of the best horses here will eliminate the from the start, I think there are too many horses that can win, but will get bumped out of contention. I'm just a beginner so don't be too hard on me.
I'll wait and see the draw before making my choice, but will have several that draw a descent post.

[mister zesterhouse]

Notional @ 30-1 looks fairs. bc(