Jockeys influence.

[zxvtrp]

What percent of a race is influenced by the jockey?? My grandpa always said that most handicappers think that the jockey is only 10% of the race and the horse is the other 90%. But he convinced me that it was the other way. 90% jockey and 10% horse.

He said to always bet on a ship in jockey, because he's there for a purpose.

Labor Day, I noticed that Justin Shepherd was the ship in for the feature race at Louisana Downs. He wasn't in the picture until they hit the wire as he won by a nose, and paid very good. My best bet of the day and I even convinced my landlord to bet on him.

Really, going to the track with my Grandpa all those years and he almost always won and now I do too, by playing jockeys. I don't have any fear of betting a lot on the ship in jockey because they almost always hit the board.

I also spotted Bonnie Casteneda (#5) in the 2nd Ellis, and knowing it was the last day there, I could hear my Grandpa telling me that it was a great bet, since she shipped in for this only ride. She paid $22 to win.

I ended up winning nearly $1100 for the day and mostly because of those two jockeys.

Grandpa was the best handicapper I knew, even though he did get a lot of inside info. becasuse he worked at the track. He said he made more betting than his paycheck was, and I've seen him do it.

I used to read the form, but after I was in on a couple of fixed races, I quit looking at one, because I figured they aren't worth much. Now I almost always win, playing jockeys. zxvtrp

[Jerfi]

Nice article!

Question: I also believe that a 'ship' jock, who is a good one, does come to win. Are there any other criteria that may be helpful?

I've tried handicapping just the jocks, at various times, and have never done well with it.

In today's world, I don't even look at the jock.. just handicap the horse. I'd sure be willing to learn.

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On another tack...how often do you find a ship jock? Like, are there any, today, that I can watch?

[THE KID]

Is there an easy way to find out if the jockey was shipped-in?

[vintonotb]

the trainer is the most inportant thing for the horse he prepares the horses looks for spots , when a trainer puts up a top riders or ships a rider in in when I will take note asking why for this and what does it mean >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

[ken]

Is there an easy way to find out if the jockey was shipped-in?
Great thread!
Equibase has info on track leaders and you can also look up jockey by name- just check all the names in the big race and see where the jockey has been entered before or after the big race.

[ticker2]

I once bet Jerry Bailey 5 times in one day and lost all 5! But from another angle I like it when a horse has changed from a low % jockey to a high % jockey.

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[lvcookie]

I like a low percentage trainer who suddenly puts a high percentage jockey on his horse.

[leo123]

I was told this story by a famous TBD trainer. He had a 3 year old that he worked at Tampa for one full meet & never ran it. When he left for the big money up north, he hired the leading jockey to ride the horse. In the paddock he told the jock hehad bet $100 on the horse for him. They all bet their money & anxiously waited for the finish. The horse finished last. The jockey told the trainer "next time- you win"
2 weeks later the same senario was played out. In the paddock the jockey asked the trainer if he had bet for him. Of course was the reply, & the result was the same, except the trainer & his group hadn't bet on the horse. The jockey & all his buddies had lost their shirts when the horse again finished last. The trainer had taken care of the horse in the barn before the race.
Later on he took the horse to another track & won by the length of the stretch.

[deltasports]

I was told this story by a famous TBD trainer. He had a 3 year old that he worked at Tampa for one full meet & never ran it. When he left for the big money up north, he hired the leading jockey to ride the horse. In the paddock he told the jock hehad bet $100 on the horse for him. They all bet their money & anxiously waited for the finish. The horse finished last. The jockey told the trainer "next time- you win"
2 weeks later the same senario was played out. In the paddock the jockey asked the trainer if he had bet for him. Of course was the reply, & the result was the same, except the trainer & his group hadn't bet on the horse. The jockey & all his buddies had lost their shirts when the horse again finished last. The trainer had taken care of the horse in the barn before the race.
Later on he took the horse to another track & won by the length of the stretch.
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FIRST TIME I DID THAT WAS BACK IN AUGUST 1962.ONLY THING DIFFERENT WAS NOT ONLY A TRACK IN A DIFFERENT STATE BUT I USED ONE OF THE TOP RIDERS IN THE COUNTRY AND GOT A $58.80 MUTUEL..THE JOCK..ANYONE REMEMBER HAROLD "RED" KEENE..???AND I STILL GOT THE WIN PICTURE TO PROVE IT..

[crazybear]

1 of the things i like to look for iswhen a tr has more than 1 horse in thesame race and his go to Jock is on the higher priced horse.