Your opinion, top 5 3yr olds, currently.

[Mister Stigg]

1. Discreet Cat
2. Barbaro
3. Bernardini
4. Showing Up
5. Henny Hughes

[ken]

5. Henny Hughes. I'm taking the easy way out based on recency and coming right back from the layoff.

[mister zesterhouse]

Since it's your thread Stigg and you used Barbaro I'll use him too.

1. Bernardini
2. Discreet Cat
3. Henny Hughes
4. Barbaro
5. Bluegrass Cat

If you're talking about 10 furlongs I'll still go Bernardini before Discreet Cat.

[metfan]

Bluegrass Cat romps in the Haskell, runs clear cut seconds in the Travers,
Derby & Belmont(all Grade 1 races) and you dont rate him in the top 5?
Bernardini
Barbaro
Bluegrass Cat
Discreet Cat
Jazil

[mister zesterhouse]

good point metfan: but if had he not re-bid in the Travers I'd put Bright One or High Finance ahead of him, maybe even Lawyer Ron. Deep group of 3's.

[Mister Stigg]

Metfan, I didn't put Jazil in my top 5 either! I listed my top 5, my opinion, and you are at liberty to have an opinion as well. BG Cat did run a monster in the Haskell, but who did he beat? But I'll give more of my reasoning, starting with his Derby prep races. He won the Sam Davis, big deal. He lost TB Derby to Deputy Glitters, who has beaten who since? He got smoked in the Bluegrass Stakes. Okay, now when he starts running a little more respectable races, how many lengths did Barbaro beat him by in the Derby? He ran 2nd to Jazil in the Belmont, which accomodated Jazil's running style. Has Jazil beaten anybody like Barbaro or Bernardini? Who did BG Cat beat in the Haskell? And how many lenghts did Bernardini beat him by in the Travers? When I started the thread, I wasn't thinking of only 10f races on dirt. We have 3 yr old sprinters and 3 yr old turf horses, good ones I might add. But, if you take the top twelve, and race 10f on dirt, and Barbaro is healthy, I think BG Cat could be outrun by Barbaro, Bernardini, Bright One, Showing Up, and maybe even Lawyer Ron. So fellow trackwinners,feel free to include or exclude BG Cat in your top 5, or include or exclude whomever you wish in your top 5, for that matter. It's just your opinion.

[Mister Sanderson]

1. Discreet Cat
2. Bernardini
3. Showing Up
4. Henny Hughes
5. Bright One
5a. Bluegrass Cat

[dickmoss]

Mister Stigg,
Your whole premise is who did Bluegrass cat beat?
yet, you list Lawyer Ron, Bright One and Showing Up as better horses.
Who in the hell did any of them beat?
You are contradicting yourself.
MetFan makes the best points of any of you guys.
And why not, the Mets will win the World series this year, and we will have to be bored with more, who did they beat?

[Mister Stigg]

Dickmoss, feel free to post your top 5 without scrutiny, and my whole premise is not just who did he beat. I also said "if you take the top twelve, and race 10f on dirt, and Barbaro is healthy, I think BG Cat could be outrun by Barbaro, Bernardini, Bright One, Showing Up, and maybe even Lawyer Ron." Look, as far as dirt races at the classic distance, he isn't better than Discreet Cat, Barbaro, or Bernardini, and I threw in two other horses from other respectable divisions of racing. If I was into ripping people, metfan, I would rip you for putting BG Cat ahead of Discreet Cat, who crushed Invasor in the UAE Derby AND for leaving out Henny Hughes! So, I would be surprised to be harrassed about my opinion by coalminer, but not surpised by a metfan or a dickmoss.

[Mister Sanderson]

Mister Stigg,
Your whole premise is who did Bluegrass cat beat?
yet, you list Lawyer Ron, Bright One and Showing Up as better horses.
Who in the hell did any of them beat?
You are contradicting yourself.
MetFan makes the best points of any of you guys.
And why not, the Mets will win the World series this year, and we will have to be bored with more, who did they beat?
if you were so BORED reading his thread, then why did you take time to respond so enthusiastically, DICK?

[mister zesterhouse]

If we're talking 10 furlongs I'll go:

1. Bernardini
2. Discreet Cat
3. Barbaro
4. Bluegrass Cat
5. Bright One

Don't think Showing Up is as good on dirt as turf. I'd say he would've rated a big chance last Sat in the FOURSTARDAVE. WOODWARD SAT: FLOWER ALLEY TO CRUSH A GROUP

[Mister Sanderson]

If we're talking 10 furlongs I'll go:

1. Bernardini
2. Discreet Cat
3. Barbaro
4. Bluegrass Cat
5. Bright One

Don't think Showing Up is as good on dirt as turf. I'd say he would've rated a big chance last Sat in the FOURSTARDAVE. WOODWARD SAT: FLOWER ALLEY TO CRUSH A GROUP
... I think the verdict is still out on Showing Up on dirt...You wrote how much of a monster High Finance is, well Showing Up annihilated him at GP on dirt, remember? They threw him to the wolves in the Derby and he beat 14 horses, only losing to 5. Since then he has destroyed turf foes. The only question is: will Tagg and the owner switch him back to dirt???????!?!?!??!?

[Mister Stigg]

We're not talking 10f dirt races only, but you're right. Showing Up is probably better on turf, although he was a very young and inexperienced horse when he won the Lexington and ran 6th in the Derby. We won't know how good he is on dirt as a more seasoned horse unless he tries it, and right now, he's doing so well on turf, there's really no reason to. But I'd be intrigued. I think he's matured into a very nice racehorse.

[mister zesterhouse]

... I think the verdict is still out on Showing Up on dirt...You wrote how much of a monster High Finance is, well Showing Up annihilated him at GP on dirt, remember? They threw him to the wolves in the Derby and he beat 14 horses, only losing to 5. Since then he has destroyed turf foes. The only question is: will Tagg and the owner switch him back to dirt???????!?!?!??!?

Didn't remember the race against Showing Up--what were the particulars of that race? Showing Up crushed the Keeneland & the Derby is his only dirt loss (and it was obviously a very good effort). Definitely an intriguingly weird Strategic Mission killer. Turf or dirt? Well, he can't mile with Aragorn and the Euro turf monsters are coming for the Turf, so why not think Classic?

[Mister Sanderson]

Didn't remember the race against Showing Up--what were the particulars of that race? Showing Up crushed the Keeneland & the Derby is his only dirt loss (and it was obviously a very good effort). Definitely an intriguingly weird Strategic Mission killer. Turf or dirt? Well, he can't mile with Aragorn and the Euro turf monsters are coming for the Turf, so why not think Classic?
why can't he?? He has never been touched on sod. Why can't he be as good as Aragorn. Aragorn just beat Wild Buddy, Hendrix, Laura's Lucky Boy, and has beaten better groups in the past. I can't put a ceiling on this horse yet, maybe you can.

note: I remeber High Finance losing to Bernardini in one MSW at GP, and then to Showing Up at 6.5 at GP.

[Mister Stigg]

Came into the derby off 2 wks. Maybe the best derby performance coming from the Lexington SINCE Charismatic.

[Mister Sanderson]

Came into the derby off 2 wks. Maybe the best derby performance coming from the Lexington SINCE Charismatic.
Lukas had run Charasmatic like 657 times by then, too!! Showing Up had his 2 races under his belt. BEAST

[mister zesterhouse]

why can't he?? He has never been touched on sod. Why can't he be as good as Aragorn. Aragorn just beat Wild Buddy, Hendrix, Laura's Lucky Boy, and has beaten better groups in the past. I can't put a ceiling on this horse yet, maybe you can.

note: I remeber High Finance losing to Bernardini in one MSW at GP, and then to Showing Up at 6.5 at GP.

HE GROWS UP & HE GROWS UP & HE ALLS GROWS UP: dammit Mikey I'll bite.

I'll have to say: I hate to admit when I'm wrong. Just watched Showing Up's Lexington, Secretariat & Derby: this is a killer. Check the fractions at Arlington: his Beyer number came up 107; Tin Man 107 too. Tin Man went slower earlier then sprinted the quarter a little faster. I didn't write exactly what Showing Up went but the final time was 2 minutes flat. In the Lexington he got nailed by a pig outta the gate & there is an article after the race that said he came out of it with a puncture wound. In the Lexington, Like Now (Kiaran's Jules who had just beaten Keyed Entry & Sweetsouthernsaint at AQ) set the pace that day: and we all know what setting the pace at Keeneland means. But, he was no match late for Showing Up.

Tagg is the most conservative trainer in North America and said before the Derby that he didn't have Derby fever or anything like that but that his horse is very very fast and will do anything in order to win--go through any hole, whatever.

Very interesting horse: already a millionaire. Not sure where I'd go with him. David Junior is coming for Classic. Shirrocco is coming back for the Turf, and O'Brien has a deep top end group. But I wouldn't be afraid of running against Cacique or English Channel or Tin Man.

The Mile is always a full field and tough with Aragorn the only monster freak. Siren Lure may go to the Mile.

I know his next start will be on turf against older horses at Belmont--we'll know more after that race.

BROTHER DEREK BACK THIS WEEKEND: popped a 58 Sunday. Hendricks thinking Classic.

[Mister Stigg]

I should probably start another thread to finish this conversation since we're getting a little off, like breeder's cup forecast, maybe later. Anxious to see Showing Up's next race. Closers have won the BC Sprint in the past, so why r the connections of Siren Lure looking at the Mile? I wish I owned him and could choose, I'd choose Sprint.

[thegrandmeister]

how can barbaro be on anyones top 5. the top 2 are bernadini & invasor hands down. i would think you have to pick horses still in training when compiling such a list. what barbaro wouldv`e couldv`e or shouldv`e done is speculative now at best. he unfortunately is out of the pic. if they have an award for most guts in the face of adversity .that barbaro must win. hes got heart .

[Mister Stigg]

Wow, I didnt' realize Invasor is a 3 yr. old. You're right, if he's 3, he definately belongs. I should have explained before I posted my top five that it's all divisions, sprint, dirt, turf, based on performances beginning of the year until now, kind of a premature eclipse 3 yrd old poll. Needed to leave off the word currently and replace it with to date.

[mister zesterhouse]

Invasor is 4; he was Uruguay's horse of the year and won their 3 year old Triple Crown (first time since 94). Shadwell bought him after his 3 year old season. Going to JCGC then to Classic: Kiaran says didn't want to cut him back to 9 furlongs (which is what the Woodward is run). Son of Candy Stripes. Horse named Potri Flash finished second to him in all three triple crown races.a:

[Mister Stigg]

Mister Zesterhouse, I tried to ask you a ? in a private message, but the site wouldn't let me. It said "mister zesterhouse has exceeded their stored private messages quota and can not accept further messages until they clear some space." So my question is, how were you able to watch Showing Up's past performances?

[mister zesterhouse]

tons of videos on ntra.com

www.ntra.com

http://racereplays.com

[dipspitt]

Dick Moss sums it up the best of anybody, but beware,this Discreet Cat may very well be a "super-horse", the problem is they are only running him 2 more times this year, and not in the Breeders Cup.

[jfey52]

bored?? who's bored?? im never bored at this site...love it...taking copious notes...thanks for these ongoing debates...always something positive to be gained...and presenting in good argument...i remain enlightened...a:

[Mister Stigg]

A few notes on Showing Up. ""He's very, very fast. He's tenacious. In his first race, I was completely amazed, he looked like a horse who'd run 10 times. It was kind of fun watching him.(Barclay Tagg)" The author of the bloodhorse article ended with this. "Tagg reported that the puncture wound in Showing Up's right front leg that he suffered during the Lexington wasn't 100%, but that it hadn't hampered the colt's training." Will be suprised if he isn't in the top 5 against older males in the Man O War, and if he is, he's a very nice 3 yr. old.

[mister zesterhouse]

Stigg: Showing Up will be the chalk in the Man O War. You gonna play Relaxed Gesture or Go Deputy? He'll outrun those two.

[Mister Sanderson]

stiggs--let me apologize for mz's snarky comment: what he means is Showing Up is the horse to beat in the Man O War and if he runs well he's going to the Turf.

BTW: Many smart guys are saying AFTER MARKET (STORM CAT-TRANQUILITY LAKE MOTT WYGODS) is better than Showing Up.
After Market was supposed to go today at Delaware but that race has been Ernestoed and will be run next Saturday.

[Mister Stigg]

The notes I read said "Among those pointing to the race are Cacique, Cosmonaut, Go Deputy, Musketier, Ramazutti, and Relaxed Gesture. Silver Whistle and Sky Conqueror are possible" I LOVE this horse, but I'm not gonna stick my neck out and say he's gonna beat Cacique or Relaxed Gesture. And what if other killers show up? With those two in, I guess saying top 3 would have been safe. Which distance suits him better, mile or 1 1/2m on turf?

[trackjer]

Must give the edge to Bernardini, don't yet know how good he really is, same for Henny Hughes. Condolences to Bluegrass Cat's owners, and here's wishing all the best for Barbaro.
1. Bernardini
2. Barbaro
3. Henny Hughes
4. Discreet Cat
5. Bluegrass Cat

[mister zesterhouse]

The notes I read said "Among those pointing to the race are Cacique, Cosmonaut, Go Deputy, Musketier, Ramazutti, and Relaxed Gesture. Silver Whistle and Sky Conqueror are possible" I LOVE this horse, but I'm not gonna stick my neck out and say he's gonna beat Cacique or Relaxed Gesture. And what if other killers show up? With those two in, I guess saying top 3 would have been safe. Which distance suits him better, mile or 1 1/2m on turf?

I still think Showing Up will go off as the favorite even with Cacique in there: he was 1-2 at Arlington and out-Beyered The Tin Man. I like him better at 1.5 miles.

[Mister Stigg]

With his tactible speed, I think S.U. would finish better at a mile vs 1.5 against those european freaks!

[Freckie]

1. Bernardini
2. Showing Up
3. Barbaro
4. Bluegrass Cat
5. Henny Hughes
5a. Bright One (yet to win the big one but looks damn good)

[mister zesterhouse]

stiggs--let me apologize for mz's snarky comment: what he means is Showing Up is the horse to beat in the Man O War and if he runs well he's going to the Turf.

BTW: Many smart guys are saying AFTER MARKET (STORM CAT-TRANQUILITY LAKE MOTT WYGODS) is better than Showing Up.
After Market was supposed to go today at Delaware but that race has been Ernestoed and will be run next Saturday.

After Market ran last yielding turf--throw this race out and get him at much better price next time on the firm--Keeneland maybe? Brilliant ran a big one.

[mister zesterhouse]

Still can't get video of Showing Up v. Bernardini at GP: anyone ideas, anyone Frey? Simone?

[Mister Sanderson]

they never ran against each other at GP.. the horse they both beat in common was High Finance... and for PP's... I dont know

[mister zesterhouse]

they never ran against each other at GP.. the horse they both beat in common was High Finance... and for PP's... I dont know

Yeah that's my mistake (up late): Showing Up v. High Finance race I need details.

[Mister Stigg]

I think High Finance would be a legitimate contender for the Jerome, anyone know if he is going?

[mister zesterhouse]

Lawyer Run keyed-up before the race, very much on his toes and ends up running off. McKee couldn't hold him (should've let him go and cleared off by 10), engaged the speed, tried to relax, kicked for home clear but could not hold off Strong Contender. Point Determined a no-show. Nice win for Ward/Oxley but LR was 5+ lengths the best. Doubt he goes to the BC now.

[deltasports]

#1 Discreet Cat

#2 Discreet Cat

#3 Discreet Cat

#4 Bernardini

#5 Bernardini

[Mister Sanderson]

#1 Discreet Cat

#2 Discreet Cat

#3 Discreet Cat

#4 Bernardini

#5 Bernardini
thats funny. every horse can lose though.

[Mister Stigg]

#1 Discreet Cat

#2 Discreet Cat

#3 Discreet Cat

#4 Bernardini

#5 Bernardini

These two definately stand out right now!;)

[mister zesterhouse]

Bright One to Indiana Derby (GII) first Saturday in Oct.

[deltasports]

Bright One to Indiana Derby (GII) first Saturday in Oct.

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DALE IS MANAGING THIS ONE THE RIGHT WAY!!!! tu? tu? tu? hh)

[Mister Stigg]

Bright One to Indiana Derby (GII) first Saturday in Oct.
Couldn't help but think of him as I watched the Super Derby, was thinking they might run him there. Still think he's better than the top 2 finishers, but I guess ID is easier spot with same purse. If he runs, he's by far the best horse to set foot on that track(Hoosier Park), EVER! Although I think Mr. Mink could have given him a battle for 6f in his prime!a: He(BO) ran a mile at CD in 1.33.+. I'm using BO and Dylan Thomas only in my BC P6!

[mister zesterhouse]

BO better than Brass Hat? IMO remains to be seen!

[Mister Stigg]

I though Brass Hat was sidelined again? Either way, yes, IMO.

[mister zesterhouse]

He is sidelined, though a gelding will try to bring him back. Brass Hat a multiple G1 winner. Caught late by Electrocutionist in Dubai. Big statement.

[mister zesterhouse]

Romans has been masterful with him thus far.

[Mister Stigg]

He is sidelined, though a gelding will try to bring him back. Brass Hat a multiple G1 winner. Caught late by Electrocutionist in Dubai. Big statement.
Since you're comparing Bright One to Brass Hat, I guess you have read that they are pointing BH to the Classic!? That's gonna be alot to ask of a hurt horse!

[mister zesterhouse]

Since you're comparing Bright One to Brass Hat, I guess you have read that they are pointing BH to the Classic!? That's gonna be alot to ask of a hurt horse!

Haven't heard that Stigg; tough spot for a return race.

[Mister Stigg]

BO better than Brass Hat? IMO remains to be seen!
I mentioned using Bright One and Dylan Thomas only in last leg of pg(which is bull, I am using PD too, bombs away!) Actually, I'm gonna be home watching in agony as my pretend $60 ticket comes in!
Curious what inspired you to ask this ? if Brass Hat isn't going to be racing at CD on Nov. 4th?

[mister zesterhouse]

You said BO best horse to set foot at HP--I say he has a ways to go before he proves he's better than Brass Hat (who won the ID a two years ago).\\

Dylan Thomas is a pretty good 3 year old: how long has been since there was a 3 way photo for the win in a big race? Dylan Thomas will outgame Invasor by a head with Bernardini a nk back in 3rd. Down the str-eh-etch.

[Mister Stigg]

Forgot about Brass Hat at HP, good point! Mr. Mink rules the sprints!::;

[Atikin656]

Discret Cat will out perform the other three, he runs with much interest and ability.He reminds me of barbaro in the muddy slop of the Gulf sream park race , Takes the lead an watches the others try and close it.

[Mister Stigg]

If he weren't skipping the JCGC, you could very well be right. He's vary talented! I'd feel safe boxing those 4 in the super.

[mister zesterhouse]

Lawyer Ron transferred to Pletcher. Invasor out of JCGC, sick. Discreet Cat any good?

[Mister Stigg]

Lawyer Ron should enjoy Pletcher juice, Invasor needs a midol, and Discreet Cat sucks as hard as Mojica! 4 words for DC. Breeders Cup, On Top! Three words from Walter Matthau to describe why the shiek wouldn't find somewhere to run him in the Breeder's Cup, even against his other horse, Bernardini: "RICH AS JESUS!"

[Mister Stigg]

Besides the more popular scenario, Discreet Cat vs Bernardini, Invasor, Lava Man, Premium Tap, Sun King, Dylan Thomas, etc., in the Classic, how about DC vs Henny Hughes in the Sprint! Wow! Both 3 year olds! tu? Hard to come up with a better crop! I believe Dylan is a 3 yr old also? I'm excited about the Breeder's Cup, anxious to see what happens, and hope to see Discreet Cat! Usually favor older horses, but this could be a year that 3 yr olds do big things across the board! Wait A While is 3, just crushed a very nice group of older mares!

[crazybear]

My Own personal prefeneces right now are
1.Bernardini
2.Discrete Cat
3 Too Much Bling for a speed horse (if he's still around )
4. I was impressed with Wait a While a 3 yr old Filly made it look easy against older Horses
5.Maybe Strong Contender.

Just the ones i like

[mister zesterhouse]

Cindago injured badly out of ID may be done. Bright One 3-5.

Wait A While Henny Hughes Bernardini all BC pick 6 singles? Spread in Mile, Turf, Juvenile? Horse Greeley In Norfolf this weekend @ OT should put on show.evil murderous el guapo i know. i'll put infamous. (more than famous)

[Mister Stigg]

Cindago injured badly out of ID may be done. Bright One 3-5.

Wait A While Henny Hughes Bernardini all BC pick 6 singles? Spread in Mile, Turf, Juvenile? Horse Greeley In Norfolf this weekend @ OT should put on show.evil murderous el guapo i know. i'll put infamous. (more than famous)

Although Wait A While dominated older fillies last weekend, I think she might be partial to hard turf, and I don't think CD's is nearly that hard, so I would have to use Gorella and Ouija Board also, maybe Film Maker(of course on my actual ticket, I will have 6 keys!). I could key Henny. The sprint, turf, and classic are impossible! If Bernardini crushes Saturday, he's a key. Have to see how good Dylan Thomas is, and if Bernardini is still in form. So my straight p6 looks like this(not sure about p6 race sequence): Gorella, Henny Hughes, Aragorn, Circular Quay, Hurricane Run(if he don't come, another euro killer!), and Premium Tap. Disclaimer: if Discreet Cat runs, he automatically replaces the horse I have listed for that race!

[Mister Stigg]

My Own personal prefeneces right now are
1.Bernardini
2.Discrete Cat
3 Too Much Bling for a speed horse (if he's still around )
4. I was impressed with Wait a While a 3 yr old Filly made it look easy against older Horses
5.Maybe Strong Contender.

Just the ones i like

Yeah, I like Too Much Bling, I think he was a better horse than Songster on Belmont day, just had a bad trip! Nothing not to like about Wait a While, top two are top two, and Strong Contender is a pretender(but I would pay the training bill if Oxley gave him to me!).

[crazybear]

http://www.drf.com/news/article/79048.html
Yeah im not a real big Strong C. fan but was running out of 3yr olds in tr.Not sure where Lawyer Ron will run or now that Pletcher has him if they let him run in the BC.Invasor and Discreete Cat are very very strong i just hope that a lot of these run next year higly unlikely but if they did it sure would make for some good races.IMHO Blue Grass Cat is Perfect Drift all over again.

I had read this on the DRf and Hope Worth The Wait and O Board and Gorella meet up .Im a big OBoard fan

[Mister Stigg]

http://www.drf.com/news/article/79048.html
Yeah im not a real big Strong C. fan but was running out of 3yr olds in tr.Not sure where Lawyer Ron will run or now that Pletcher has him if they let him run in the BC.Invasor and Discreete Cat are very very strong i just hope that a lot of these run next year higly unlikely but if they did it sure would make for some good races.IMHO Blue Grass Cat is Perfect Drift all over again.

I had read this on the DRf and Hope Worth The Wait and O Board and Gorella meet up .Im a big OBoard fan

I forgot to mentioned I keyed Too Much Bling in the p4 on Belmont day, only leg I lost! I just read the article you attached, and my thoughts are why not try the Mile? 1. she damn near won it last year 2. she probably likes the distance better 3. Ouija Board is a Killer! From a handicapping perspective, I hope she does run in the mile, but from a racing fan perspective, I hope she goes in the F&M Turf. For the most part, I agree with you about BG Cat! You just inspired a new thread.

[mister zesterhouse]

Although Wait A While dominated older fillies last weekend, I think she might be partial to hard turf, and I don't think CD's is nearly that hard, so I would have to use Gorella and Ouija Board also, maybe Film Maker(of course on my actual ticket, I will have 6 keys!). I could key Henny. The sprint, turf, and classic are impossible! If Bernardini crushes Saturday, he's a key. Have to see how good Dylan Thomas is, and if Bernardini is still in form. So my straight p6 looks like this(not sure about p6 race sequence): Gorella, Henny Hughes, Aragorn, Circular Quay, Hurricane Run(if he don't come, another euro killer!), and Premium Tap. Disclaimer: if Discreet Cat runs, he automatically replaces the horse I have listed for that race!

Premium Tap should've won this weekend but think he'd have to pull a Volponi to win the Classic. Much improved horse but would rather try David Junior, Dylan Thomas or Lawyer Ron.

Circular Quay likes the CD surface can't complain--he's a freak.

[Mister Stigg]

Premium Tap should've won this weekend but think he'd have to pull a Volponi to win the Classic. Much improved horse but would rather try David Junior, Dylan Thomas or Lawyer Ron.

Circular Quay likes the CD surface can't complain--he's a freak.

I might would use George Washington instead of Aragorn? As far as Premium Tap, I threw him in as a price b/c everything else I listed was chalk. I do think Premium Tap is the most underrated older male. He had an excuse when he ran poorly 3 starts back. He's a nice size animal, reminds me of Pleasantly Perfect. The thing that concerns me about him is the checked "off the planet" in his last. Alot of times, when something like that happens, you don't find it until they run, i.e. Afleet Alex may have been lucky to get through the Belmont after his preakness incident(besides being lucky just to have finished that race). Premium Tap was good. Have to wait and see.

[mister zesterhouse]

Cindago injured badly out of ID may be done. Bright One 3-5.

Wait A While Henny Hughes Bernardini all BC pick 6 singles? Spread in Mile, Turf, Juvenile? Horse Greeley In Norfolf this weekend @ OT should put on show.evil murderous el guapo i know. i'll put infamous. (more than famous)

Yes sir they are singles and horse greeley was eased.tu?

[deltasports]

Yes sir they are singles and horse greeley was eased.tu?
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i was asked by my MAN A MONTH AGO to make an offer on HORSE GREELEY IN HIS BEHALF..
I TOLD HIM THAT I THOUGHT HE WAS AT BEST, CUT OUT TO BE A NICE HORSE BUT NO G1 OR CLASSIC HORSE WHATSOEVER

[mister zesterhouse]

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i was asked by my MAN A MONTH AGO to make an offer on HORSE GREELEY IN HIS BEHALF..
I TOLD HIM THAT I THOUGHT HE WAS AT BEST, CUT OUT TO BE A NICE HORSE BUT NO G1 OR CLASSIC HORSE WHATSOEVER

Let's keep in mind that he is out of Chilke Chatte (a Storm Cat monster) and won Del Mar Futurity (G2) crushing Great Hunter. First-time on the stretch with all kinds of trouble out of the gate and on the turn. Wise to skip BC and let Mandella coach him up.

[mister zesterhouse]

Perryville showcasing more of this 3 year old crop tomorrow in the *toughest* race I've ever seen on paper. Latent Heat, High Finance have best figs but have never raced on poly--Midnight Lute deserved a better fig for his last romp (did it easily). Likely had a terrible trip last time and does have poly experience. Praying For Cash makes his firs start for Pletch whose stock haven't fared well thus far on the poly. Court Folly will be flying late but will it be in time? Key Court Folly on the bottom rungs of the ten cent supers?

[horsecrazy]

HAY! You should not say that in a public place like the internet you CREEP!

[horsecrazy]

I think that Bernardini should be the #1 horse.

[mister zesterhouse]

HAY! You should not say that in a public place like the internet you CREEP!

No comprende. I appreciate the creep comment though. Keep em coming--is this you again Christina?

[Mister Stigg]

HAY! You should not say that in a public place like the internet you CREEP!
Curious what comment this was concerning? If anyone listened to zester, you might have caught you a nice 10c super! Paid like 227 for the ten center! Court Folly ran 3rd. Good job zester! Classic example of a race where it's easier to figure out who will run 3rd or 4th than who will win! My new top 5, first of year, till now:
1. Discreet Cat
2. Bernardini
3. Barbaro
4. Henny Hughes
5 George Washington-If George is older, make it Showing Up.

[mister zesterhouse]

Curious what comment this was concerning? If anyone listened to zester, you might have caught you a nice 10c super! Court Folly ran 3rd. Good job zester! Classic example of a race where it's easier to figure out who will run 3rd or 4th than who will win! My new top 5, first of year, till now:
1. Discreet Cat
2. Bernardini
3. Barbaro
4. Henny Hughes
5 George Washington-If George is older, make it Showing Up.

GW is a 3 and in real life was a vampire: and, the British still consider him a terrorist.

[Mister Stigg]

Still wondering what Horsecrazy went crazy about. Okay, my final, end of year 3yr old poll:

1. Barbaro
2. Discreet Cat
3. Bernardini
4. Showing Up
5. George Washington

And for everyone who still can't believe I left out Bluegrass Cat:

"Showing Up's final time of 2:00.06 in winning the Grade 1 Secretariat was 1.29 seconds faster than the clocking The Tin Man posted capturing the Arlington Million going the same distance one hour earlier on Aug. 12. He also set two track records and established a stakes record winning the Grade 1 Hollywood Derby earlier this month.(today's drf)"

And George did big things as a 3yr old in Europe. I may be a little sentimental about Barbaro, but in my mind, he's undefeated, and his Derby victory was smashing!

[Mister Sanderson]

1. Discreet Cat
2. Bernardini
3. Showing Up
4. Barbaro
5. Princess Paige *

*(inside joke)

Merry Christmas, USA Dental Floss!